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where did DIR go
08-25-2004, 01:37 PM,
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Re:where did DIR go...

Ethan, I found this quote interesting. Can you expand on that?

My believe is that a truly DIR diver is a good diver. That diver has passed fairly rigourous training, uses high quality gear, and follows very safe practices. Now, I believe that non-DIR divers can be good divers as well. It isn't an exclusive club.

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I'd be happy to expand on it, but please note that you didn't quote me in context. The full sentence that you excerpted said: (emphasis added)

I just wanted to clear that up, because the first part is crucial to my meaning. I will agree that the "truely DIR divers", who have gone through the GUE courses or have picked it up on their own, tend to be very good divers. As I write this, I'm specifically thinking of Gert - I've dove with him (once) and could immediately see that he's an excellent diver (far better than me, I'll admit). A few years ago, the vast majority of people who spoke positively of DIR were such experienced DIR divers, and being "DIR" was probably a reliable (though not sure-fire) indicator of a good diver (though there of course many excellent non-DIR divers).

However, now that DIR is becoming more popular, you've got many "casual DIR divers" (I know that is supposed to be a contradiction) or "beginning" DIR divers. When I wrote this sentence I was referring more to those individuals who have a DIR-like setup and/or talk about DIR all the time, but don't have the incredible technique and skill that you get through years of experience (or natural talent).

I should've known better than to make a statistical statement based on a small set of anecdotal evidence. I've seen very few DIR divers in Wisconsin - with all the inter-shop animosity I haven't had much of a chance to dive with the Deep Blue crowd. Of the DIR folks I've seen, some have "appeared" good, some have appeared so-so, and some pretty lousy. I'm mostly basing this on occasional sightings at Wazee and Milwaukee wrecks (and you, Paul! ;D ). On the other hand, I've dived with quite a few extremely good divers who are not DIR (and I'll specifically mention Tami Thomsen here).

So perhaps I could say that my observation was biased by the company I keep. But in retrospect I think I went a bit overboard because I was annoyed by the whole conversation - all this ridiculous sniping really gets to me. So I think I'll just retract what I said (I'm allowed to do that, right?) and admit that I overgeneralized. Instead I'll just limit it to "there are good and not-so-good divers on both sides - being DIR isn't a reliable indicator of a good diver, and there are many excellent non-DIR divers."

Ethan
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Messages In This Thread
where did DIR go - by DiveCaptDean - 08-23-2004, 02:33 PM
Re: where did DIR go - by wethead51 - 03-11-2005, 01:41 PM
Re: where did DIR go - by Bubblemaker - 06-22-2005, 08:21 PM
Re: where did DIR go - by matt t. - 06-22-2005, 08:49 PM
Re: where did DIR go - by Chris H - 06-23-2005, 05:57 AM
Re: where did DIR go - by scubert - 06-23-2005, 08:23 AM
Re: where did DIR go - by scubert - 06-23-2005, 08:35 AM
Re: where did DIR go - by scubert - 06-23-2005, 10:30 AM
Re: where did DIR go - by Deep Blue - 06-24-2005, 05:30 AM
Re:where did DIR go - by Chris H - 08-23-2004, 07:55 PM
Re:where did DIR go - by DiveCaptDean - 08-24-2004, 10:45 AM
Re:where did DIR go - by scubert - 08-24-2004, 12:04 PM
Re:where did DIR go - by DiveCaptDean - 08-24-2004, 05:05 PM
Re:where did DIR go - by Bubblemaker - 08-24-2004, 05:56 PM
Re:where did DIR go - by Chris H - 08-24-2004, 08:20 PM
Re:where did DIR go - by jasondbaker - 08-24-2004, 10:39 PM
Re:where did DIR go - by Chris - 08-25-2004, 11:38 AM
Re:where did DIR go... - by ethanb - 08-25-2004, 12:05 PM
Re:where did DIR go - by jasondbaker - 08-25-2004, 12:16 PM
Re:where did DIR go... - by jasondbaker - 08-25-2004, 12:35 PM
Re:where did DIR go... - by ethanb - 08-25-2004, 01:37 PM
Re:where did DIR go - by DiveCaptDean - 08-25-2004, 01:42 PM
Re:where did DIR go - by jasondbaker - 08-25-2004, 02:12 PM
Re:where did DIR go - by Chris H - 08-25-2004, 02:29 PM
Re:where did DIR go - by JacobsonC2 - 08-25-2004, 03:54 PM
Re:where did DIR go - by Deep Blue - 08-25-2004, 03:55 PM
Re:where did DIR go - by DiveCaptDean - 08-25-2004, 09:21 PM
Re:where did DIR go - by DiveCaptDean - 08-25-2004, 11:52 PM
Re:where did DIR go - by scubert - 08-27-2004, 03:55 PM



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